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History Jizz
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Thought I'd start the history thread back up. Post anything related to history here whether that's personal history, popular history, etc.

Today, while doing research on a work project, I found a huge "List of Deserters from the Confederate 12th Ala. Infantry" printed in a Mobile paper from November 1862. It gave name, age, and physical attributes. Fun thing is the only ancestor I have that I know fought in the war went AWOL in Dec 1863. Still got his pension though.
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#2
Apparently grecians want to remake the colossus, but make it bigger and better


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#3
Ive been reading this lately, its translated pretty well
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Suetonius/12Caesars/home.html
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#4
I've been reading Sagittarius Rising, the memoirs of a British WWI fighter ace. All I can say is fuck that noise. Yeah they had it better than the infantry in terms of quality of life, but holy fuck the casualty rate among pilots was appalling. They didn't even have parachutes yet so if your plane went into a death spiral or caught fire you basically had the choice of shooting yourself or riding it all the way into the ground. Guy talks about going into the mess to have lunch, talking and joking with a bunch of new arrivals, and then coming back for dinner and all the noobs are gone because they all got smoked in the same sortie. Jesus.

Hey if you cunts could choose any time period to live in, what would it be and why? I think I'd choose the American northwest during the turn of the century. So you still have the frontier spirit going strong, Teddy Roosevelt in the White House, and the only war to fight is a curbstomp fest against the remnants of the Spanish Empire.

half of the fun of being in the Air Force is watching the other branches get confused and outraged about it
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(01-09-2016, 02:13 PM)SSgt Corvus Wrote: I've been reading Sagittarius Rising, the memoirs of a British WWI fighter ace. All I can say is fuck that noise. Yeah they had it better than the infantry in terms of quality of life, but holy fuck the casualty rate among pilots was appalling. They didn't even have parachutes yet so if your plane went into a death spiral or caught fire you basically had the choice of shooting yourself or riding it all the way into the ground. Guy talks about going into the mess to have lunch, talking and joking with a bunch of new arrivals, and then coming back for dinner and all the noobs are gone because they all got smoked in the same sortie. Jesus.

Hey if you cunts could choose any time period to live in, what would it be and why? I think I'd choose the American northwest during the turn of the century. So you still have the frontier spirit going strong, Teddy Roosevelt in the White House, and the only war to fight is a curbstomp fest against the remnants of the Spanish Empire.

Fucking love that book.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a lot of bitching.<br /><br />- The Tao of Wombat
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#6
The dutch had it pretty good at the height of their empire, that might have been a fun place to live at the time.
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(01-09-2016, 02:19 PM)CombatWombat Wrote:
(01-09-2016, 02:13 PM)SSgt Corvus Wrote: I've been reading Sagittarius Rising, the memoirs of a British WWI fighter ace. All I can say is fuck that noise. Yeah they had it better than the infantry in terms of quality of life, but holy fuck the casualty rate among pilots was appalling. They didn't even have parachutes yet so if your plane went into a death spiral or caught fire you basically had the choice of shooting yourself or riding it all the way into the ground. Guy talks about going into the mess to have lunch, talking and joking with a bunch of new arrivals, and then coming back for dinner and all the noobs are gone because they all got smoked in the same sortie. Jesus.

Hey if you cunts could choose any time period to live in, what would it be and why? I think I'd choose the American northwest during the turn of the century. So you still have the frontier spirit going strong, Teddy Roosevelt in the White House, and the only war to fight is a curbstomp fest against the remnants of the Spanish Empire.

Fucking love that book.


heh, your wife recommended it to me Tongue

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(01-09-2016, 02:30 PM)SSgt Corvus Wrote:
(01-09-2016, 02:19 PM)CombatWombat Wrote:
(01-09-2016, 02:13 PM)SSgt Corvus Wrote: I've been reading Sagittarius Rising, the memoirs of a British WWI fighter ace. All I can say is fuck that noise. Yeah they had it better than the infantry in terms of quality of life, but holy fuck the casualty rate among pilots was appalling. They didn't even have parachutes yet so if your plane went into a death spiral or caught fire you basically had the choice of shooting yourself or riding it all the way into the ground. Guy talks about going into the mess to have lunch, talking and joking with a bunch of new arrivals, and then coming back for dinner and all the noobs are gone because they all got smoked in the same sortie. Jesus.

Hey if you cunts could choose any time period to live in, what would it be and why? I think I'd choose the American northwest during the turn of the century. So you still have the frontier spirit going strong, Teddy Roosevelt in the White House, and the only war to fight is a curbstomp fest against the remnants of the Spanish Empire.

Fucking love that book.


heh, your wife recommended it to me Tongue

It's pretty much AF horrifying-yet-badass porn. Dead right for you. Big Grin

 There's a sequel as well when you get to it - Lewis got recalled back to the RAF for WW2 as well, so Sagittarius Surviving is him flying in Sicily and Greece. It's not as good as Rising, but it's still pretty solid.

He was an interesting bloke. I reckon he ended up with about twelve books, all sorts of stuff. Plus the Chinese air force - he helped form their first one - and the BBC, which is a pretty good monument.

I'll give Herself a hug from you for putting two and two together. Tongue
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#9
I'm a History major. IN.
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#10
I would want to be a fighter pilot in ww2 with the 56th group


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#11
Book recommendation if any of you can find it: Brazen Chariots, by Maj Robert Crisp. It's the memoirs of a Brit tank officer during the North Africa campaign. Lots of bitching about poorly-designed Brit tanks that break down or throw tracks if you look at them wrong, followed by glee when they finally get issued American-made M3 "Stuart" light tanks that go twice as fast and are fully reliable. Lots of hot tank on tank action including a crazy LEEROY JEENKINS zergrush into German/Italian lines that honestly should have gotten them all killed but somehow was a total success.

half of the fun of being in the Air Force is watching the other branches get confused and outraged about it
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#12
America from 1890-September 10th 2001. Fuck the everything else tbh fam.

In all seriousness though I'd love to live in New York during the Jazz Age. 
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#13
South Louisiana at the turn of the century-1941. Before they found oil in Jennings, the state really had zero infrastructure and all the towns and minor cities west of New Orleans were really isolated frontier towns pretty much living in the 18/19th century. It would be interesting for me to see the culture and language down hear as it had been before any actual American influence, the way my grandparents knew it as children. World War II and the oil boom changed all that.
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(01-09-2016, 12:14 PM)hussaf Wrote: Apparently grecians want to remake the colossus, but make it bigger and better  


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That would actually be pretty cool. I hope they take the risk of earthquakes into account when designing it, it would be a shame for it be destroyed like the original was.

Oh, and recently Spain announced anyone who can prove that they are descended from the Sephardic Jews who were expelled in 1492 by Ferdinand and Isabella can now obtain dual citizenship to Spain and whatever country they currently live in:

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-spain-sephardic-jews-20151001-story.html

I liked the Fark.com headline on the subject: "Nobody expects the Sephardic Repatriation!".   Big Grin

I wonder if there will be any official recognition of Ladino (the Sephardic equivalent of Yiddish) by the Spanish government as a minority language and  if there will be any attempts to revive it, as its considered endangered.
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(01-09-2016, 09:42 PM)HardCoreTurtle Wrote: America from 1890-September 10th 2001. Fuck the everything else tbh fam.

In all seriousness though I'd love to live in New York during the Jazz Age. 

Did you know the majority of Jazz music from that era was never recorded? I think it was like only 30% that survived into the following decades.
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#16
I've said before that the Spanish-American War/Teddy time period would be my ideal, but if you look at the casualty numbers for the war, it's actually shocking to see how many died from disease. Somewhere around 2500. Only about 350 died in the fighting.

So doing this project, and with the Powerball in mind, I found the payout list for the Royal Lottery in Havana. Pretty good bit for the time. The biggest prize was $100,000
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#17
I'd rather be alive today above any other time. Less violence and poverty, more education and literacy, better health care and more access to it, ridiculously awesome technology, and much easier access to education thanks to said technology.

But failing that, I'd want to be a Civil War soldier or a WWII Marine in the Pacific. See if I had the nuts to serve in THOSE wars. But those Roman orgies do sound pretty endearing.
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I'd be a goddamn Viking during the Great Heathen Army's invasion of England...except, you know, during the time the GHA was raiding and shit, not when Alfred came to power and started doing gay smart stuff like making each town into its own little fortress and actually winning battles. That probably had to suck for the Danes
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#19
Well, as long as we're dreaming...

I'd like to read the stuff that was lost in the Library of Alexandria. Now THAT would be interesting. I want to read the all eight parts of the Epic Cycle and know the whole story, not just the Iliad and the Odyssey.

I'd also want to visit various eras and cultures in history where there aren't written records and fill in the gaps.

Britain during the pre-Roman era should be interesting. I'd like to talk to a druid and learn about their practices directly from the source.
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(01-11-2016, 04:06 PM)life is killing me Wrote: I'd be a goddamn Viking during the Great Heathen Army's invasion of England...except, you know, during the time the GHA was raiding and shit, not when Alfred came to power and started doing gay smart stuff like making each town into its own little fortress and actually winning battles. That probably had to suck for the Danes

Well  now that I think about it, you could fight in the Trojan War, since the archaeological record seems to indicate that it actually happened.

Fuck the books, I'll get a firsthand account from *you* once you sack the city. Make sure you grab the most interesting looking artifacts you see.
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#21
I reckon being a Roman would be pretty cool. There's not a lot of history around where someone who looks like me can just chill without some dick trying to pull white man's burden errywhurr, but that'd be pretty legit.

Or...bit personal, but Broome 1983-84. I want to meet my mum properly.
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#22
Actually I would like to witness the insurrection my ancestor perpetrated against Catholic Church that got him burned at the steak. #JanHuss


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#23
France before the revolution as a member of the French Court at Versailles. I'd just like to see how the palace would've looked at the time without the modern day clutter of tourists.
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(01-11-2016, 08:29 PM)frankieb Wrote: France before the revolution as a member of the French Court at Versailles. I'd just like to see how the palace would've looked at the time without the modern day clutter of tourists.

I visited there when there weren't a lot of tourists around. I honestly wasn't that impressed by it.

It also smelled funny. Probably smelled ten times as bad back then.

(01-11-2016, 07:27 PM)hussaf Wrote: Actually I would like to witness the insurrection my ancestor perpetrated against Catholic Church that got him burned at the steak.  #JanHuss


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You're related to Jan Huss? That's pretty  awesome. I like the fact that he coined a phrase used to comment on how stupid someone is being when they weren't putting enough wood on the fire. Pretty badass.

My most famous ancestor is Jacques Hertel:
http://www.thecid.com/frenchw/i300.htm

I'd like to meet his wife too, seeing as over 140,000 people are direct maternal line descendants from her, including myself.
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(01-11-2016, 07:08 PM)CivilianChick Wrote:
(01-11-2016, 04:06 PM)life is killing me Wrote: I'd be a goddamn Viking during the Great Heathen Army's invasion of England...except, you know, during the time the GHA was raiding and shit, not when Alfred came to power and started doing gay smart stuff like making each town into its own little fortress and actually winning battles. That probably had to suck for the Danes

Well  now that I think about it, you could fight in the Trojan War, since the archaeological record seems to indicate that it actually happened.

Fuck the books, I'll get a firsthand account from *you* once you sack the city. Make sure you grab the most interesting looking artifacts you see.

I'd like to see if Helen was actually beautiful enough to have had a war started over her. I mean, I've seen some beautiful women, but the thought that however many thousands of dudes died over what amounted to who, between Paris and Menelaus, got to got to bang her, boggles my mind. So if the Trojan War really did happen, I doubt it was solely over one woman.

And as an aside, I would NOT want to be in any of the Crusades. Especially the one during which the Siege of Acre happened.


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